TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS, DAMMIT!

i think there is a certain level of respect that
goes along with all of this. naturally i wouldn't
be as crass enough to 'hail, hitler' in front
of a *insert something here*.... but in the same
sense, i don't think that a person should be
afraid to bring the topic of hitler up around
jewish people.

well, if they actually _were_ in the holocaust, i'd be reluctant to bring it up.

There was a jewish girl on my floor....
she was nice.. but I talked about hitler, and told her he was a genius, etc...
it was fun, but she didn't really care...
it's all the person.

To maintain victim priority, it's necessary for the Jewish establishment to practise "holocaust denial" when it comes to other people.

In his book "Crimes and Mercies" (1997) James Bacque describes how he confronted New York Times reporter Drew Middleton with evidence that after the war the US starved to death over one million German POWs. "What Middleton told me basically was that, yes, he had lied in 1945 and no, it did not matter to him or the New York Times if I exposed this." (183)

"Middleton's sense of security, his sense of the New York Times' power, took my breath away," Bacque writes. "But worse than that, Middleton did not care about this atrocity... the New York Times witnessed it, then denied that it happened. And has gone on denying it into the 1990's." (184)

Bacque estimates that during the Allied Occupation (1946-1950) an additional eight to twelve million Germans were deliberately starved to death. The war did not end in 1945. For five additional years, Germany was subjected "physical and psychic trauma unparalleled in history." (93)

Red Army soldiers raped up to two million German women during the last six months of the Second World War, around 100,000 of them in Berlin. They also raped Russian women released from German labour camps. We live in a feminist era. Have you seen any movies about these women?

At Potsdam, the Allies ratified the 1939 Soviet-Nazi Pact that gave USSR half of Poland. Poland was compensated with the eastern quarter of Germany, in effect another gift to the Russian empire. This required the expulsion of about 12 million Germans, the largest forced migration in history.

Jews were prominent in the Polish Communist regime. In a stunning role reversal, Jewish policemen ordered Germans out of their homes and into cattle cars. In his book, "An Eye for An Eye" Jewish writer John Sack relates that about 1.5 million of these Germans died in the removal. He quotes a German woman from Gleiwitz: "What happened to the Jews was sad. But there was another Holocaust too." (138)

According to Sacks, Jewish Communists extracted another cruel revenge. They filled 1250 Nazi concentration and labour camps and brutally tortured and murdered tens of thousands of Germans. (101 ff.)
Have you seen a movie where concentration camp guards and commandants were Jews? Since 1948, the American Jewish Committee and the Anti Defamation League have censored all Hollywood scripts involving Jews. Since these bodies are extensions of Jewish finance, what other topics have they censored? (Gabler, An Empire of the Own: How Jews Invented Hollywood 1988,p.303)

In his book, "Victims of Yalta", Nicholai Tolstoy documents "Operation Keelhaul," the Allies' forced repatriation of two million Russians who were German slave labourers, prisoners of wars, or soldiers. These people were sent to the Gulag and liquidated. Where is the museum dedicated to them?

The mass media is unusually coy when it comes to reporting Communist atrocities. Nine million people died in the Russian Civil War (1917-1922). The Communists targeted czarists and Christians in particular. Stalin's purges and famines accounted for 20 million more deaths. In China, Mao ZeDong is blamed for a similar number. More recently, let's not forgot Tibet, Cambodia and Rwanda. (See Twentieth Century death tolls at http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm )

In "The Holocaust Industry" (2000) Norman Finkelstein describes how Israel helped its ally Turkey deny the massacre of one million Armenians in 1915. "Acting at Israel's behest, the US Holocaust Council practically eliminated mention of the Armenians in the Washington Holocaust Memorial Museum, and Jewish lobbyists in Congress blocked a day of remembrance for the Armenian genocide." (p.69)

if you can be locked up for denying the holocaust, why not make a law requiring people to accept every event that is recorded in history books as true (whether the content of the books changes over the years doesnt matter, as long as you agree with the one you have)?

history is subjective. i am always cynical about such things as these days, there are so many political agendas behind it.

i suppose i would feel the 'jewish conspiracy' ever so much more if i were palestinian, or on the receiving end of jewish 'power'.

in my area, many of the elderly jewish people went through the holocaust - that is why they immigrated to australia. many of them don't talk about it and they vow never to see any holocaust films, especially LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL (La Vita e Bella) as they heard it was about a 'joke' in the concentration camps. so on the one hand, the people that went through the holocaust personally don't want to be reminded of it yet the jewish community will not let society in general forget, in order to be seen as the righteous suffering victims of history therefore all their demands (especially on palestine) are just and should be met.

i wonder if i'd be able to see comedies on a horror i survived.
To sit back, decades later. And just laugh.

perhaps not if it was some major injustice done to me. i would feel it too acutely.

but with enough time and distance, people gradually objectify more.

so i hope that if i were to ever fall upon such a situation, in decades to come, i would still be able to watch a movie about it and laugh (where appropriate).

sure that movie was a 'joke' in a sense... but
i friggin CRIED at the end...
the moral is in the title... and, to me, benigni's
character remained joyous even in the worse possible
scenarios.... at least... to his son.... even
at the moment of his death. *thats why i cried*

NO ONE has that kind of control. i sincerely
doubt that anyone could have done the same in
a real-life situation as the holocaust.

but enough about that....

i want to redirect towards gnosis's post...
which, while typical of gnosis, speaks a great
deal. i suppose that many justify the torture
and deaths of so many germans as 'just desserts'...
which makes it easier to tolerate.
i find it appauling.

not necessarily the hypocritical injustice
served to the germans, but the obvious silencing
of the behaviors as if god himself were doing
the just deeds.

it makes me return to that *bad* movie 'the
believer'... in which it states that the reason
the jewish community is so hell-bent on forcing
the suffering of the holocaust (to an almost
exaggerated limit) is because the jewish community
receives a great deal of spiritual pride in
being the most abused/tormented.
relate that back to kamikaze pilots... even
kamikaze/suicidal soldiers of the middle east.

i have no doubt that the suffering in the jewish
holocaust was immense... nor do i feel it should
be undermined... however, i do not think it
is deserved of such a high pedestal as creating
a global law enforcing its place in history.

Agree